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24 February 2008



Perhaps you could harvest your Florida Betony, Pam, and sell it at the farmer's market to pay for all those bushes and trees you want to buy! (I'd never heard of the stuff...)

The County Clerk

Wow. That stuff looks insidious.

You know, you could try to get some different varieties of the Betony (Georgia Betony, Alabama Betony) and... uh... say that you have a Betony garden!

What kind of guy would think that weed reminded him of a stripper? Sounds like HE has something on his mind. Watch out for that guy.

The County Clerk

It actually looks nice.


As I was reading about your plight with Betony, I had a thought (an uncommon occurrence...). The new wild dog could be trained to dig up all the Betony ...

The stripper comment was hilarious... as was Hank's retort.


I too seem to be seeing more hawks lately. There is a very opportunistic red tailed hawk who perches on top of a light pole by the interstate near my work. I guess he is waiting for whatever animal meets its end at the hands of a motorist, I hope it is careful getting its meal. Last weekend I looked out the window and saw what looked liked large flaked snow falling. However, it was a peregrine feasting on one of the neigborhood pigeons from atop of our linden tree. It was quite something to watch.

Please do not bring any Florida betony from S. Carolina when you visit Virginia, I am busy enough on Sundays.


Another name for them here in SC is Florida artichoke, presumably because the tubers resemble those of the Jerusalem artichoke.


Pat, if you haven't heard of it, and live in the lowcountry, then consider yourself a lucky, lucky woman. It is evil! And the farmer's market is a great idea - perhaps I could see all things 'betony' - pickled betony, betony earrings, candied betony...think of the possibilities!

County Clerk: I hadn't thought of that...are you telling me that perhaps this man's thoughts/intentions are less than pure?


All I can say is: THANK GOD.

Kate, trust me, the Wild Dog has already dug up her share of the florida betony, and I think that it has only encouraged it.

Les, I'll do my best to not share my betony torment with my fellow Virginians!

I need to ask one of the real bird people (aka people who actually are knowledgeable about birds and study them - NOT the mythic winged humans that we ALL KNOW EXIST) that I know about the hawk populations - it seems to be a common observation these days.

Mike - when I lived in Florida, they did call them an artichoke, I had forgotten that.


Count me in on the betony problem. I'm going to have to mow in the next few days so it isn't so obvious. I fight it every year.

While I know a series of anecdotes doesn't equal data, I've definitely seen a lot of hawks lately.


Heather, I need to mow too. It's crazy stuff. It is interesting about the hawks, isn't it? Alot of folks have been saying the same thing.


I'd love to have betony in my yard, as I'm trying to do as many wild edibles as I can. I can't find any anywhere! I'm ready to go to some undeveloped land and get some!

You can kill it, however, with repeated sprayings of roundup, and pre-emergents. But if you really want to get rid of it, I'll take some!


Deborah, yes - it's edible, and yes - a few applications of round-up will get it (but it takes a number of applications). But I try to avoid pesticides if I can (and trust me - I would have to spray a good half an acre) - and where do you live? If you're anywhere near coastal South Carolina, I can give you tons of the stuff. I'd just make you sign a disclaimer that you wouldn't come after me later - this stuff really takes over!


I know this post is rather old, but here's a lil bit of info I came across on Florida Betony...

"Maintain a healthy, dense lawn by fertilizing and liming according to soil test results, and mowing at the proper height and frequency. A healthy turf can outcompete Florida betony for light, water, and nutrients.

There are several broadleaf herbicides available to homeowners that contain 2, 4-D, MCPP, and dicamba. Examples include Ortho Weed B Gon Weed Killer for Lawns Concentrate and Trimec Southern. These products can be used to spot treat Florida betony and can be used in fescue, Bermuda, and zoysia lawns. Before applying to centipede and St. Augustine lawns, carefully check the product label. Because of their sensitivity to 2, 4-D, it’s normally recommended to apply at reduced rates. Also, injury can occur if applied to centipede or St. Augustine during green-up, the transition between the dormant state and active growth in spring.

Broadleaf herbicides, including the two mentioned above, will harm ornamental plants. Avoid spraying desirable plants and avoid spraying over the root zone. Desirable plants can be protected from herbicide drift by not spraying in windy conditions, by keeping the spray nozzle close to the ground, and by using low pressure. Lastly, do not apply to turf when temperatures are above 85 ºF.

Herbicides containing atrazine are labeled for use on St. Augustine and centipede lawns and will help control florida betony. Examples of products include Ortho Weed B Gon Spot Weed Killer for St. Augustine Lawns and Hi-Yield Atrazine Weed Killer. It is recommended to apply atrazine in fall and to re-apply in mid-winter to early spring. With any product, it may take 2 years to completely kill Florida betony.

Products containing atrazine should not be applied during green-up and should not be applied over the root zone of desirable plants. Also, because atrazine affects the growth of emerging seedlings, areas of turf treated with atrazine cannot be overseeded for six months."~http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2313.htm


Florida betony tubers are delicious even if they look like a weird worm. The tubers can be used in any recipe calling for jerusalem artichokes. Their kissing cousin, Stachys affinis, the Chinese artichoke, knotroot, artichoke betony, or crosne is selling now for $4.98/each tuber. They look so much alike as to confuse some of the experts.
Market them locally. Try some in a jerusalem articoke recipe and ask your friends to try them. They will be begging you for more.

Tracy Cairns

I know this is an older thread, but if you still read this, or if anyone reads this post, who lives in an area with Florida Betony, who merely tries to kill it, PLEASE consider contacting me. I would LOVE to have some of those tubers to plant in my garden. The more, the better. If anyone would fill me up one of those "One-price no matter the weight" USPS boxes, I will pay for shipping and donate a grow-able amount of a wonderful, and rare dried bean called Zolfino. It is an obscure Italian bean grown in one little village in Italy.
Please contact me at: Tcairns 67 at yahoo dot Com
Thanks for listening. TC.

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